Why doesn't this 1000hp 1965 Mustang have an LS V8?

LS vs 351, Panhard vs watts link, electronic wastegate control magic and the surprising advantage a 1965 Ford Mustang has over many modern chassis are all discussed in this interview with Mike Dusold of Dusold Designs.

Most of us love the look of a classic car on the surface, but we've come a LONG way when it comes to the suspension geometry and engines hidden underneath. This particular setup uses a solid rear end with a watts link along with a 351 Ford Windsor-based V8 using twin Garret G-Series G35-900 turbochargers to produce 820hp at 8 psi, which is far from the ceiling but more than enough to start dialling in the car.

What is there to dial in when you can simulate so much in software like Performance Trends and Fusion 360 before even touching a welder these days? Mike explains that while on paper, or in this case screen, you can get an ideal setup, driver preference and real-world conditions still play a vital role. For that reason, critical adjustments like the roll centre height are never fixed based on untested educated assumptions alone. Also touched on is how the software is only as powerful as the data you can feed it, and gathering that data correctly is a skill set in itself.

The MoTeC-controlled 430 cubic inch 351 Windsor-based small block Ford V8 benefits from Trick Flow heads narrowing down the margins between it and the ever-popular LS V8 engine which Mike runs a variant of in his own Camaro. Having experience with both, a quick comparison is drawn between the two but as stated once you start getting over 1000hp you generally start running into similar problems on any engine, there is no perfect solution in every respect.

Lastly, we discuss some of the surprises electronic wastegate control via Turbosmart eGates can deliver along with some of the wiring considerations that are not necessarily as bad as some might think once set up correctly.
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00 - Racing A Classic: Mike Dusold
0:18 - Why A 65 Mustang?
1:15 - The Problem With Old Chassis
2:05 - Technology Improvements
2:51 - Aftermarket Part Support
3:34 - Advantage Of This Classic
3:57 - Rear End Solid Axle
4:24 - Negative Camber Components
5:35 - Tyre Distortion Vs Camber
6:12 - Panhard Rod Vs Watts Linkage
7:34 - Roll Centre Height
9:24 - Software Analysis
10:03 - Hard Part Is Measuring/Data Collection
10:33 - Data Validation
11:42 - Without Data, It's Just Opinion
12:18 - 351 Ford Windsor
12:47 - 351 Weakness
13:03 - 820whp at 8psi
13:44 - GM Vs Ford Generalisations
15:19 - Cylinder Head 101
15:36 - Twin Turbo Setup
15:55 - Turbosmart E-Gate Setup
16:20 - Wastegate Control Stratagy
16:52 - Exhaust Pressure Differential
17:22 - Electronic Vs Pneumatic Wastegate
18:27 - Electronic Wastegate Wiring Considerations
20:16 - It's All A Learning Process
21:05 - Thanks Mike!
21:18 - BUILD.TUNE.DRIVE

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    This question is a bit technical and needs to be consulted by professionals.



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    - Fyodor Japan
    11 months ago
  •  's profile image
    This question is a bit technical and needs to be consulted by professionals.



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    skysmotor.co.uk sells the following products online: closed loop stepper motor, pancake stepper motor, servo motors, planetary gearbox and can be purchased online if required. https://www.skysmotor.co.uk/
    - Fyodor Japan
    11 months ago