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To bring everyone up to speed. Ive been prepping my sfwd car for the pass few months and eas fonaly able to leave from an Aem infinity and come on over to the motec m130 platform. Its a m130 with the k series drag firmware.

I need overall assistance with getting target idle qaulity correct.

Setup consists of motec m130

Motec lambda o2

8 fic 1650 injectors

Aem 7bar map sensor

Factory honda coil packs

Jbre sfwd spec longblock

Precision 72/85 turbo currently.

Main goal is to get idle quality set up so I can work on configuring all small things prior to dyno. Literally trying to get engine to start and idle, make sure I have no leaks under light load. Do full nut and bolt check.

Configure qauife sequential to motec for wheel speed to be read of diff pickup.

Configure rear wheel speed sensor and set small parameters. I'm aware I have my work cut out for.me. but I'd like to be proactive in not only setting up my car but also further understanding this motec software so that I can be self sufficient as possible. I understand all the big name tuners are extremely busy. So I figure the more I learn the less time I have to spend annoying them with questions and leaning on my own understanding.

Where are you located? Is the car setup for drive by wire, or cable throttle? If cable, is there an Idle Air Control Valve configured?

Have you wired the rear wheel speed sensor(s)?

Who did you purchase the ECU from? -- are they not willing to provide some level of help?

What is the current state? Will the engine start? Have you been able to verify the Engine Speed Reference offset with a timing light?

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Where are you located? northwest florida Is the car setup for drive by wire, or cable throttle? Throttle cable. If cable, is there an Idle Air Control Valve configured? No idle air control

Have you wired the rear wheel speed sensor(s)? I have wired the sensor in needs calibration

Who did you purchase the ECU from? -- are they not willing to provide some level of help? Bought ecu package used and original tuner that tuned this ecu is extremely busy and not able to assist. So rather than be a burden I much rather prep car and learn full motec m1 system to a point of self sufficiency then consult someone with more experience when I'm ready to tune car.

What is the current state? Engine will start, idling is the issue at this very moment. Will the engine start? Have you been able to verify the Engine Speed Reference offset with a timing light? Will verify with timing light once im.able to get engine to run and idle steady with out assistance from throttle input

OK, what kind of help do you want? We could do a TeamViewer session if you can connect to the car and your internet at the same time.

If you want to do it yourself. First I would make sure that all sensor readings seem to be correct. Air Temp, Coolant Temp, Manifold Pressure, Throttle Position are critical, fuel pressure is correct, or sensor reads correctly. Verify Ignition dwell times are correct for your coils. Verify correct injector configuration (and the default fuel pressure if you don't have a sensor installed). Make sure you are getting O2 Lambda reading after engine starts.

I would initially disable the idle control, and usually the closed loop fueling if the car will run.

Then I would start by adjusting the throttle stop until the engine will run in one cell of the Engine Efficiency table. Change the axis values as necessary. Tune that cell and determine what Lambda value gives the smoothest operation. Set that as your target for the entire idle area in the Fuel Mixture Aim table. Let the engine fully warm up (you can adjust it before it's warm, just recognize you're not done unless it is tuned at the normal operating temperature).

Close the throttle some (and/or lower the ignition timing) and work your way down to the desired Engine Speed at idle. The ignition timing should be relatively smooth in this area with no large changes in timing.

Smooth the fuel table in the areas around where you have tuned -- follow the trends you've observed.

Once you've got the idle smooth and stable, then you can work on the Cranking Fuel Compensation, making sure it will start up easily without throttle when warm. Let the engine cool (overnight is best), and the next morning, observe the first crank. Your cranking compensation should have more fuel when cold, but don't worry about this until you've been able to calibrate the Coolant Temp Compensation while the engine runs at idle and reaches normal operating temp -- follow the trend for colder temps so you will be ready for a really cold morning. Next time you do a cold start, see if the Cranking compensations needs more or less fuel to start easily.

David Ferguson, Veracity Racing Data, https://veracitydata.com for contact info.

David i absolutely cherish your wisdom and insights. Everything you said makes sense. However i would like to set up a TeamViewer time with you so you can view and overwatch to help me learn as well as offer advice. As I think that will be beneficial to my learning experience

Send me an email and we'll try to find a time that works for us both. I'm in California, so I'm 3 hours behind you.

roger that sent and email. just confirm you got it. thank you.

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